Jos Pelders on Ekstrem™ in Gentle

We sat down with Jos Pelders, the founder behind the Febrik side of Kvadrat Febrik, in the middle of his habitual running between daunting large airports and client meetings to talk about all things textile and all things Ekstrem™. Varier has developed a tight-knit relationship with the innovative knit makers of Febrik during the last couple of years and has collaborated with them on the latest rendition of the iconic Ekstrem™ chair, the Ekstrem™ in Gentle.
What is your absolute favorite object in your home? Your precious treasure.

It would have to be my outdoor woodstove. My life is quite hectic and I travel a lot. Coming back home to that woodstove helps me cool down and relax. Maybe it’s a boy’s thing, or maybe I am just a romantic. I like rituals, timeless, traditional rituals, like lighting a fire, the same way people have done for centuries. I love the chopping of the wood, the burning, the sitting beside it, the smell, the whole experience.

You work with textiles for a living, what sparked your fascination with them?

My wife designs textiles, and it was because of her I fell into the world of textiles. We met while we were both studying and created Febrik together before we joined Kvadrat 5 years later.

Textiles became such a big part of our lives and I became fascinated by all its possibilities. Once you start working with the textile you realize that it is everywhere around us and if you take it out of our daily lives then everything would be naked, undressed. Textile is an undervalued type of product, that like milk or water, we use every day. I don't think I'll ever leave the world of textiles, there is still so much left to explore within it.

What role does innovation play in the textile development process at Febrik?

We are knitters, and knitting isn’t new. It is an old-school, ancient practice, with an unsexy reputation. We didn't invent knitting, but we have developed a new way of using it for upholstery. Innovation is not only about creating something new or finding the fanciest new production technologies such as 3D printing but about reexploring something that already exists and giving it a small twist and the right application field.


What was your experience the first time you sat on an Ekstrem™ chair? Please don’t leave anything out. We’re very curious to know.

When you first see the Ekstrem™, you see this very iconic object from the 80s. You immediately assume it won’t be that comfortable to sit on because it is there only to be beautiful and not to be used. But surprisingly, it is extremely comfortable. The best part is that it feels like a playground and you become like a kid when you sit on it. You instinctively begin to twist and turn and try different positions. I was pleasantly surprised when I first sat on it, it was unexpected and not what I thought it would be like. The Ekstrem™ is both iconic and comfortable.

How would you describe the Gentle fabric to a reader who cannot touch or feel it in person and only has your words as a reference?

The name of this fabric already implies what it feels like. Gentle is a super soft woolen velvet textile. Velvet, just like knitting, connects to the idea of something old fashion for a lot of people, like thick curtains in an old cafe to keep the cold out, a baroque chair, or the seats at a cinema. But, the way people perceive Gentle is different, its delicate texture and unique color make it feel fresh, modern, and cool. It is a velvet that feels young, not old. With our fabrics, we always want to touch the next generation of designers and products, and this fabric has done just that.

Ekstrem™ has quite an unusual shape. What considerations were important when identifying the right upholstery textile for such a curvacious piece of furniture?

The Ekstrem™ has such an extravagant shape that adding a layer of heavy texture to it would be too much. You need something more gentle, literally. This textile has a plain color with a subtle, enchanting glare over it. That is just what you need for this chair, not more. It’s about respecting the product as it is. About supporting it, not overwhelming it. Also, the stretch of the knit is very important here because it molds perfectly around the chair, leaving no distractions around small folds or seams.

At Varier we are all about objects that invite our bodies to move. What is your relationship to movement?

In a way, if we talk about textiles, it is all about movement. Knit moves and lives its own life.

If I look at myself, however, I would not say that I am a big mover. Well, I am a big mover in terms of mileage as I am constantly crossing the world, but not in terms of sports or gymnastics. Once I arrive home after moving around the world, I’m always surprised at the number of steps I have to take at airports because some of them are simply too massive. That’s the only movement I do, airport transits and commuting in general. When I get home, all I want to do is relax by my beloved wood stove and do absolutely nothing. I find more pleasure in this lack of movement, in the stillness than in running. I love my wood stove what can I say? We end this conversation where it all began.

Ekstrem™️

Ekstrem™ is not merely a chair, but rather a stand-alone object. It represents one of Norway’s first postmodern designs.